The communication difficulties between NT/ASD partners is usually a primary source of conflict, hurt and misunderstanding. The neurotypical wife feels very isolated and hopeless when the ASD husband is unable to receive her feelings and perspective. A neurotypical woman needs her intimate partner to be her softest place to land, the primary spot where she is received with empathy, kindness, warmth and understanding. Unfortunately, the autistic husband is often overwhelmed by her feelings and this makes it very difficult for him to hold space.
Honest communication is an inherent part of any healthy marital relationship. Spouses should be able to both give and receive honest feedback to one another. Unfortunately, this can function like a minefield in a NT/ASD relationship. Many neurotypical women report that their husbands perceive her feelings universally as criticism, and a personal attack. Sharing her feelings can quickly escalate to a serious conflict with her Asperger’s Syndrome husband.
DARVO is an an acronym that stands for DENY, ARGUE, REVERSE VICTIM & OFFENDER. Unfortunately, this is a common communication pattern in ASD marriages when the neurotypical wife brings her feelings to a discussion. The autistic husband might view her feelings in black and white, right or wrong terms. This might be reflected in him denying the content of what she is sharing. He might say – no, that didn’t happen, because he disagrees from a perspective of literalism. Or, her feelings are “wrong,” because his behavior isn’t inappropriate (by his estimation). He didn’t intend to be hurtful, so she shouldn’t feel hurt. This is terribly invalidating to the NT wife, who is yet again experiencing deprivation of empathic engagement. An argument ensues, and the husband is now angry – he insists that she apologize for being so critical, negative and accusatory toward him. He may spiral into all or nothing statements, like “he can’t do anything right, she always attacks him.” The neurotypical wife is possibly further villainized if she doesn’t swiftly jump to apologizing and reassuring the ASD spouse. Yet………………………………………………this conversation was supposed to be about HER grievances.
Many circumstances contribute to the autistic partner’s perception of criticism when his wife shares her feelings, such as:
- Autistic individuals often think in black and white terms. If he is judged as doing something “wrong,” then he feels irredeemably “ALL” wrong in his mind. Holding two opposing thoughts is difficult for the ASD husband. He has difficulty knowing that his strengths and good points still exist – simultaneously – with her disappointment in other aspects of his behavior.
- Feeling inherently bad, wrong, unlikeable, etc., is usually very triggering for the ASD spouse. Most autistic individuals have experienced a great deal of bullying in life, especially in childhood. He can perceive his wife’s feelings as her presenting evidence of his innately flawed self. Her dissatisfaction over his behavior is perceived as a rejection of him vs. his actions. (Example: “my behavior is disappointing” vs. “I am disappointing.”)
- His poor theory of mind skills (also called “mind-blindness,” or lacking intuitive empathy) present difficulty in imagining her intention in approaching him, or what pain is motivating it. He is consumed by his own engulfing feelings of shame and defensiveness, possibly crowded out by anger. The autistic spouse places value on his intent, and struggles to see that his intention does not minimize the harmful impact upon her.
When the conversation about her feelings is turned upside down, the neurotypical wife is left feeling outraged (and broken-hearted) that she cannot communicate her honest feelings and be heard by her husband, Her feelings that were the original point of the conversation are no longer the focus – she must repair his feelings, accept his perspective of her intent and perhaps be treated to his silence, anger, shutdown or meltdown.
Sometimes, an ASD husband will ask me, “why should I listen to her feelings when they’re really just complaints about me? She just wants to treat me like a punching bag.” I will tell him, “the way that a neurotypical wife solves a problem is to communicate. Her sharing hurt feelings about your behavior in the relationship is an attempt to be understood. She hopes that if you understand her pain, then you will modify your behavior. Bringing her “complaints” directly to you is a hopeful thing, because she is inviting you to help solve the problem, and it also means she believes you are capable of solving it.” This is often a mind-blowing revelation for an ASD spouse, because his experience with hearing negative things about himself is usually in the context of bullies who get a thrill out of hurting him. To realize that his wife is actually trying to problem-solve at heart is helpful and concrete to him. The more abstract concepts that a neurotypical wife wants – of being heard, seen, understood intuitively, and met with remorse – are difficult to convey. But we can start with problem-solving. If he can “see” her need to change the problem behavior and not personalize it as hatred for him – but actually confidence in his potential – then he’s less flooded with anxiety and defensiveness. This helps increase the likelihood of the NT wife having her needs met to a certain degree, instead of not at all.
This is gold. True gold. I really wish I could send this to my spouse, for him to read it and then understand. From past experience, he would most likely say I’m trying to put him in a box and using this article to show once again I am picking on him. It has just become easier to not communicate at all because everything is turned back into me, exactly as this article describes. Even things I shared earlier in our marriage (for example that my parents divorced) are flung back at me as “evidence” that my intentions were always to divorce him instead of what I have been trying for years to do–work together.
Thank you for this, I just don’t see any hope that my marriage can work as he is unwilling to put forth any effort or even acknowledge we may be wired differently from one another.
Reba, you have my empathy. Leaving a partner of either gender is a tough move. Though, excruciating as it is, it’s more damaging to stay in a relationship where (to me) it seems insurmountable if the partners, one or both cannot and will not lift the veil to acknowledge the issues. No matter how many ways we negotiate with ourselves to stay, there’s an equal counter negotiation with ourselves to go. The moment I realized that I would be negotiating the relationship ONLY with myself, the answer came to me to leave. It’s such an incredibly hard acceptance to truly see that there is, and likely will never be all but an inkling of a meeting of the minds, hearts, souls, spirits between our ASD partners and us. Our ASD may hate us for initiating the exit, as if we had not sounded the alarms, when we had in earnest attempted to truly accommodate our ASD partner and ourselves. I know that I did more of the accommodating in the first year, and that was my mistake as a people pleaser. I erroneously applied my brand of empathy to my partner, thinking that if I treated him as I wanted to be treated, then he would treat me the same way in return. You see, I had my own version of mind blindness, just like my ASD partner, yet there were differences in the awareness of it for me. I could name it and describe it. Messy and arduous as it was, I wanted to look at it, overcome it with my partner and work to set goals with our relationship counselor for hope and milestones. Whereas, his was not demonstrably there, even by assessment of our relationship counselor. I have my journals, which kept track of my introspection, self-accountability, my disintegration, and finally having enough inner strength to do the hardest thing ever by telling myself …”you have to let go now, honey”. Oh, the painful sadness, fear and agony of tearing myself away. One year later I am far better alone. It took me a solid 6 months to start to feel a turning point of normalcy. What have I learned? That the strong, stoic, silent type may be intriguing, but there’s is a warning in that attraction that I will not go toward ever again. It’s is a broken parts of us. That is on us. Instead, we must choose what is our highest place of authenticity. We must know our own personality type and find another who matches us most in temperament, personality, interests, like extroversion, introversion, feeling, sensing, logic, sensing, perceiving, thinking; these are the Meyers Briggs Personality Inventory, which I will personally use. As an INFJ, (Introverted, Intuitive, Feeler and using Judgement), I will do better with the same or other tested compatible combination. To some Meyers Briggs may seem like hogwash. I would not rely upon it only. However, it is a part of how I’m now finding myself closer compatibility to a future partner.
Thanks a lot for this article! I am the neuro-atypical (I have been under-diagnosed with GAD but have all the typical ASD traits) husband that completely matches the profile here. I shared the article with my NT wife and told her that all that she’s been saying was right. I am going to apologize now; but I had to post my gratitude.
The only thing missing in this article is a print button.
Thank you so much for this! I have never felt so seen. This perfectly sums up the dynamic between my partner and I, and brought me both peace and grief over the years I spent thinking I was crazy and unreasonable for bringing up my needs. I don’t usually comment on these kinds of things, but I just had to on this occasion! I’ve sent it to my partner, hoping he will understand.
I just came across this. I’ve been split from my ND partner for a year now. I’ve gotten over it but the memory of how painful it was being with someone like this is still as strong as ever. I wish I had found this kind of support to make me feel validated. His autism was mixed with skewed morals and values, defending his disloyalty and betrayal as he talked to other women (apparently innocently). I tried to make him understand my feelings in the most logic terms. It sounds bad but I can’t date anyone who is ND in the future because it hurts too much. NT’s to be with an ND you really need to look after yourselves. This can make you go crazy which it did me. It destroyed us but destroyed me more and had long term therapy because of it. It was probably the most traumatic experience in my life and most painful relationship I’ve ever been in. My inner peace is precious and I won’t let anyone disturb it again.
Thank you so much for this article. Every word hits home as the neurotypical wife. You feel so alone. So lonely. It feels comforting to know I’m not the only one. It’s so hard. I’m bawling after reading this.
I truly understand your feelings. You are not alone.
As a NT wife, if my husband would read and understand this article, our life together could be more positive. This article describes our interactions for over 20 years. It is a traumatic existence that only spouses of Aspergers really understand.
Dear pen, I was married 27 years. I never understood he is autistic.. he refuses to acknowledge he has a problem. I left a few years ago. I have been trying to explain my experiences… he only sees me being blaming and critical. I don’t think je knows what words mean, like blame, intimacy, love… his interpretation seem limited and child like. Every thing is blame
I am divorced 3 years now from my undiagnosed ND ex husband. I have always been thoroughly confused as to why I was blamed for everything (still am) or why any gift to me was something he liked and not necessarily what I liked.
This post explains a lot of my feelings and may explain why he could never hear that he had verbally and emotionally abusive meltdowns with me and the children. I started to figure it out when we had a son with ASD with too many similarities to Dad.
It has been a deep learning journey to accept his limitations, lack of empathy and responsibility for his disrespectful behaviors. The effect has been severe on all of us (both children suicidal at times). I have needed much therapy to deal with the stress/toxicity and carry the emotional burden as if I were the only parent, because in a way, I am.
3 years and I still seek posts like this to understand that I’m not crazy. It is a complex issue with real grief. I don’t condone his behaviors, but at least in my recovery, I no longer take it personally and can have compassion for the hurt he must have suffered as a child to make him enlist such behavior mechanisms.
To you all, i wish good luck in moving beyond the suffering this type of gap can cause. To the author, thank you for writing this post.
This is certainly one of the most important issues in an nt/asd marriage, there really is no solving it but to divorce. I watched my parents arguing about this as a small child. I didn’t understand why my asd father would turn into a raving lunatic over my mother asking him to mow the lawn. A few minutes later she would be on the floor and was being kicked by him. This behavior lasted 47 years until he passed away. I see this behavior in my own asd/nt marriage and there is no solution but to divorce him if I had the financial resources to support myself.
This is where I am at in my 17 year marriage. My focus is on my 15 year old daughter and understanding her ND needs after a suicide attempt that left her lucky to be alive. I’m doing it alone as my ND husband cannot/will not support and ‘avoids’ emotion and conflict at all costs. I’ve grieved over our relationship, it is what it is. It’s my daughter that can be helped and hopefully understand ND and masking impacts it has in a NT world. And be open to it without blame…
This post is incredibly accurate. Now how can an nt wife fix it? Divorce or separation sounds like the best solution. But not always the best choice when there are children still living at home. Thank you for bringing this issue to light, it’s been hidden in the dark for for much too long.
Wow, what powerful words. You are an excellent writer and I can’t thank you enough for your compassion for the nt spouse.
Thank you. I w always wondered why he can’t hold space for me. This has truly been the most destructive relationship of my entire life. I hope one day I can get free.
Thank you so much for this article. This describes exactly what happened every time I tried to discuss anything with my ASD ex-partner. It was emotionally and physically destructive to me. But reading articles like this has helped so much with my healing.
Thank you for this article. My husband and i was reading this and OMG!, it fits to the tee. We’ve been together 20 years and it has been a very difficult marriage. I love my husband very much, but I think our marriage isam coming to end. I am so deprived and lonely. For 20 years I have been emotionally abused, mentally abused and yet have stayed in the relationship, but I think I’m going to file for divorce….Thanks Again
I read this wonderful well written article awhile back and bookmarked it. I tried for close to a year to help my partner understand it, but he just couldnt grasp the meaning or concept of it. It’s too bad because it would have made our lives better. Thank you for writing it and hopefully other autistic people can use it in a positive way to make their relationships with others more positive.
Married for almost 30 great years with 3 beautiful kids. Our faith and genuine love keep us together. And we have work to do!! He’s an amazing man who confuses me at times. The kids are adults now and step in when he’s unreasonable during their visits. He listens. He knows he’s an Aspie. I never considered what this article suggests may be his perspective. Even my saying something like, “I’m not picking on you” seems to confuse him and stop the conversation or provoke a response that I can’t keep up with or tolerate. Whew. There must be more to this, however. Perhaps he’s fighting inner trust? Well, this is a sure conversation starter.
I can’t thank you enough for this article. I have tried to explain this over and over to my partner and the conversation always goes in circles. After a particularly nasty argument, I found this article and sent it to him. He read it, said he understood, apologized for hurting me, and asked me to remind him to read it again later.
I think this is first time a third party has ever validated my thoughts of him prioritizing being “right” over my emotional needs, or the fact that he takes any negative or neutral comment as a personal attack, and as a result, he cannot listen to what I’m actually saying.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I feel heard and seen and I know I’m not alone.
If you have found any “resolutions” for this, or even tips for working through this, I would love to hear them.
I could have cried reading this article. Married 39 years and communication has always been difficult. I’ve always struggled to work out why my professional, hardworking and clever husband reacts so badly when I’ve tried to explain how lonely, unsupported and unloved I feel with no affection, minimal conversation and no empathy and emotional support. ‘It’s always my fault’ is his reply, despite my explaining how just a little change would make such a difference in my life. It’s only recently I’ve been thinking that he is probably on the spectrum, after a jokey remark made to me by an old friend. I’ve read as much as I can and so many of his behaviours and communication make a diagnosis of Asperger’s possible. I am at the end of my patience and am full of sadness and frustration and depression and have no energy to continue like this. Do I give it one last shot and tell him what I think and beg him to go to therapy?
Years of therapy have not worked for my ND husband. It’s only made him more focused on himself and more narcissistic. I have read that young couples benefit from marriage counseling, when they are both committed to use the tools given to them to help positively change their communication and personal interactions. ASD is an inherited neurological dysfunction, and worsens with age. My husbands brain is simply formed differently. Brain functions of emotional connectivity, affection, empathy, are just not something his brain can do. There is no answer, only to accept the heartless marriage, or to leave. It has been completely heartbreaking and devastatingly lonely. A neurotypical cannot change the way a ND brain functions. We have been married thirty years. Until he retired five years ago, I was much happier. It does help to be apart from each other for extended breaks. That is the only way I can regain my sense of self.
I found this amazing post and also sent it to my wife. She was blown away by it, since it describes our relationship so perfectly. I am the ASD husband, and I can definitely identify in my behavior exactly what you’ve described here. I can’t understand why my wife seems to be constantly unhappy in our relationship, and I can’t figure out how to console her. It looks like it’s getting worse for her, and I have begun to fear that our marriage won’t survive, which causes me a lot of anxiety as an autistic person. I have deep-seated fears of abandonment.
Whenever she brings up something that bothers her about my behavior, I take it way too seriously, feeling like I have been attacked, and I then lash out in self-defense as if she’s a parent, reversing the blame. The thing is that I am convinced in the moment that it’s true. It’s honest and never intentional. My wife feels like she has been attacked by me (never physically of course), verbally abused. I do have a hard time understanding that the criticism of my behavior (which is very often not in line with how a NT person should act) is not a personal attack on me as an entire person. I also feel like if I didn’t intend to hurt her, she shouldn’t be hurt, and that if I explain that it wasn’t my intention, she should then accept it and stop feeling hurt. It looks really bad when I write it out like that.
I am 48 and undiagnosed, and only about 3 months ago my wife, who is a psychotherapist, came to the realization that I am on the spectrum. I have been combing the internet and YouTube ever since, and found that she is definitely right. It explains my childhood, teens and my dating life (basically nonexistent). I could never figure out how to act, and interactions with people have always been very exhausting, leaving me wanting to be alone a lot. I always seem to hurt peoples feelings somehow; say the wrong thing, don’t say something that I should have said. I’ve been known for being very non-politically correct, which has caused me to stop joking almost completely, so I don’t say anything stupid that will get me fired or cancelled.
My marriage and my family are the most important things for me in my life, everything else secondary. I desperately want to keep my marriage together and also for it to thrive, and we both very much love eachother. We have a blended family where each of us has 2 kids and one together, a 10 year old boy. We’re seeing a lot of signs that he is suffering because of our problems in communication and my poor personal example, although I’m trying all the time to set a good example. He seems to be NT.
I’m sorry if this is long-winded. I thought it would be good to add my outlook as an ASD man/husband/father to this thread, and hopefully get a little more insight on how to communicate better with my wife, who is the most awesome woman on the planet (I’m not alone in thinking this) but seems to be suffering a lot because of me, and my lack of ability to hold her and her feelings, even when I really really try. I feel terrible about how she feels, and I want her to have a good, healthy marriage where she is seen, heard and loved. She definitely deserves it!
Thank you for commenting here Eddie. It was refreshing to see that this seemed to help you understand the dynamic between you and your NT wife. I’m almost in the same boat, but all 5 of our kids are from the same marriage, so I don’t know the dynamics of a blended family. I certainly pray that you have been able to improve things over the past year, and continue to.
Great article. As the ND husband I would add that we have a lifetime of learning workarounds to fit into the NT world behind us, and one thing I’ve learned is it’s ‘all in the way you phrase it’. We have to learn to say things in such a way that we don’t unintentionally sound arrogant, unhelpful, judgmental etc. This works both ways. I am blessed with a NT wife who has done her homework in this regard. Starting with something along the lines of “You’re a good partner, I’m glad we met, but you know what might make it even better for me?….” can work wonders.
I sent this article and the PDA 1&2 for my ASD partner to read, as I was at the end of my tether (10 years of toxic rows without ever feeling listened to). It rang so many bells, it felt like it couldn’t make it any worse.
While it appeared to initially land well, and he acknowledged the desperation and emotional harm these repeated exchanges cause, this appeared to be the limit his focus on the parts I sent. He pretty immediately began quoting things which he perceived to be promoting his agenda which came across as not wanting to acknowledge or address my experiences. I believe he wants to make changes, so I’m hoping he’s able to return his focus to the original text and acknowledge the pattern and effect of the behaviour. Its like complaining about a cars performance and reliability but you haven’t added oil or water for years and wonder why it’s now a steaming wreck.
I’m holding in my hand a newly minted divorce decree and I’m so saddened. The love of my life (undiagnosed ASD) couldn’t admit blame or fault or even a mistake, ever. After 13 years of marriage and two kids (one ASD) we ended it. If only he could self reflect or be accountable, only 1% of the time, I would’ve stayed with him forever. Unfortunately for some of those with Asperger’s, the shame, denials and defense mechanisms are so strong that there is no hope. I love this man with all my heart. Yet I can’t subject myself to another minute of being his spouse. It was brutal and I fear I’ll never recover my soul.
Hi Jimm, I am going through the same thing, how are you feeling now?
I have sent it to him, not that he will read it. He is rude and then feels upset thay I have the audacity to get hurt over it…
I’m the ASD male partner of a 15 year relationship. My wife just sent me this article after one of our biggest fights. We’re reasonably well adjusted post-graduate educated entrepreneurs, yet there were this morning screaming at eachother. It was insane. This article is interesting. It sheds some light. But I’m feeling quite broken & without a tool kit to do anything about it. Seems like divorce is the only way out for NT partner’s based on the comments. It’s sad. I love my wife. But it’s not like this article is going to change the glasses I see the world through. This is depressing AF…
This article is everything I have and continue to feel. My husband is currently in the throes of getting diagnosed. He spent 20years lashing out at me, does not understand the ramifications of that in a marriage and then 4 years ago came to me with the revelation he is ASD, and asked me was I relieved?!!!! He then left it for 4 years before getting to this point but I have had to pride him along.
He has told me I need therapy. He’s called me aggressive, unreasonable. Makes feel unimportant. Lacks empathy. Defensive. Gaslights me to the point I have no idea what way is up anymore. He has been rude, unappreciative, insulting. Disrespectful. Mean. I am, at times at my wits end!!
He is good round the house, does work hard and a good provider………does this help….no…..it just feels passive aggressive to me.
My advice to anyone who is early on in their relationship……..RUN!!!
couple or group therapy of some sort should be helpful if people are open for it. instead of blaming each other and loosing it. nobody is normal and even nts do make mistakes. it is not a competition or a blame game. if you are hurt don’t blame but ask yourself why you are hurt and don’t take revenge by blaming or hurting back.
I just want to get out of this marriage. I am so tired, alone, used up and trapped. Our interactions are not good for our child, who is clearly affected. Living with someone who will never, ever understand me or my meanings – who lives on a hairpin trigger, loves to argue, can never meet my needs or reciprocate my efforts, and who is chronically depressed and anxious has given me chronic illness and deep suffering. He expects me to always be with him because “I made a promise by marrying him,” and is in complete denial that he has effectively trapped me. I’m living in an alternate reality that makes no sense to me – out in the cold, looking through a window at people inside, living functional, somewhat normal lives. I want out of here and into the world again.
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(Sorry this is a long post) I have been married to an ASD/ADHD man for 52 years. During our engagement(we never lived together) I felt something just wasn’t right, (no diagnosis back then), and told him, I just didn’t think we were a good match. But if you know ASD, you know they never accept no as an answer. He asked what was wrong, I explained the best I could, and he said, “Whatever it is, I can fix it”. Because I’m one of those empathetic people, I didn’t want to hurt his feelings, so things improved, for a time. After being married for about 3 months, I realized there was no changing anything.
It was just a loop of me trying solutions, looking for answers, and him improving for, literally, 3-4 days, then same old. When our son was diagnosed with ADD in 2000, so was he, but it’s taken me up til the last 4 years to recognize that ASD was the other half of the issue. I stayed in our marriage because of our children, then thought maybe when he retired, we could reconnect. It’s just not in his wheelhouse. But I have really appreciated some of the auxillary articles linked to this page. It helps me realize I’m not crazy or overreacting on so many levels. At this point we are roommates who just don’t talk, about anything, really. And I hope younger people can recognize the inconsistency before they make lifelong commitments.
I feel the same way. We can get out.